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Re: Predetermism versus Free Will
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Amaterasu wrote:
Hello Josh, and thanks for the thought filled reply.

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Wow i loved your original post amaterasu.. very thougtful..

I myself also believe that i make my own decisions, which in turn mold what i will become in the future. I too have the urge to fight to the end even if there is 1.7% chance of hope for me in living during a life or death situation. I wanna go down trying, guns blazing and everything. It may not happen but that's the plan.. Hopefully it won't ever have to happen.

If there is any part of fate in me, i would have to say that it's the part where i was born into a great and kind family that takes care of me no matter what. It was my destiny to have a family that sticks together thru thick and thin. My family may not be the best in almost everything, but that's where the decisions i make come in, where my plans to try and improve my family's life break in.


So you didn't appreciate my latter posts? (Ha ha ha ha!)

You use the word 'fate' and so.. does that mean that in some way, you believe that you were 'meant' to be placed into the family that you are in now? Or perhaps do you just just it as a word, offhandedly without a connotation that suggests predeterminism?

I'm glad to hear that you, too, have a will to fight. I admit, sometimes it is very difficult when depression takes hold. A feeling of helplessness does take over and it seems as for whatever effect you may do.. it ends up all the same. But.. to go with guns blazing. In that glory. ^_^ Bwa ha ha. That's all that matters sometimes; having the heart of a warrior.

Moreso positively: it's wonderful that you appreciate your family on such an emotional level. I love mine: I just simply do. Unlike you, I cannot count on their unconditional emotional or physical support.. but they are kind in their own right. To appreciate what we have as humans is perhaps a very important facet of life.

In western society, to coin the marketing phrase, we're encouraged to 'Be all you can be.' which is wonderful and urges us to progress. But sometimes being happy with what IS is an integral part of existence. Or even accepting what IS as reality.. coming to terms with it, I mean. That is a very difficult hurdle to cross at times.


Yah sorry i didn't really look at your other posts.. i just wanted to comment

Ah the heart of a warrior.. such kind words..

Another thing i wanted to say is that when your in that situation where your in deep elephant crap ** and you can't really get yourself out of it ( Nasty dung-filled pothole! What an example..), then that is not entirely your destiny but the result of your lack of bad decision making. Tho there is that possiblity of just bad luck in having to face a challenge that you just could not overcome or passover..

All i wanted to say is that there are times where our human imperfection really gets the best of us and puts us in a kinda deep s**t status, which allows the depression to seep in, making us think that there was no hope in changing or going against the tide known as predetermination or fate.
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Posted on: 2008/11/4 22:28
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     Re: Predetermism versus Free Will eni-san 2008/11/4 6:25
       Re: Predetermism versus Free Will Amaterasu 2008/11/4 20:17
       Re: Predetermism versus Free Will Amaterasu 2008/11/4 20:24
         Re: Predetermism versus Free Will SwallowTail 2008/11/4 20:48
           Re: Predetermism versus Free Will eni-san 2008/11/4 20:55
             Re: Predetermism versus Free Will Amaterasu 2008/11/4 20:59
               Re: Predetermism versus Free Will SwallowTail 2008/11/4 21:03
             Re: Predetermism versus Free Will eni-san 2008/11/4 21:03
               Re: Predetermism versus Free Will SwallowTail 2008/11/4 21:06
               Re: Predetermism versus Free Will Amaterasu 2008/11/4 21:12
                 Re: Predetermism versus Free Will Amaterasu 2008/11/4 21:16
                 Re: Predetermism versus Free Will eni-san 2008/11/4 21:24
                   Re: Predetermism versus Free Will eni-san 2008/11/4 21:26
                     Re: Predetermism versus Free Will Josh_Shing 2008/11/4 21:50
                       Re: Predetermism versus Free Will Amaterasu 2008/11/4 22:03
                         Re: Predetermism versus Free Will eni-san 2008/11/4 22:11
                         Re: Predetermism versus Free Will Josh_Shing 2008/11/4 22:28
                           Re: Predetermism versus Free Will Amaterasu 2008/11/5 9:07
                 Re: Predetermism versus Free Will SwallowTail 2008/11/4 21:30
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