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Re: Im not looking to start a religious debate but....
Hikki Obsessed
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In response to Amaterasu:

When you say, "Logic dicates this..." your so-called logic is lacking. First of all, all your questions that you are asking are limited to only our realm of thinking. Humans are limited the laws of physics. God presents himself in many places of science as a way for us to understand him. The only problem is that most people miss the signs.

"Religion is neccessary in less evolved times"
If religion was necessary in less evolved times, then why did Einstein believe in a superior being?

You're applying questions that are limited by the laws of physics on a metaphysical being that created the laws of physics. Even if you don't believe in a God, you at least understand the concept of God. From there, you have to apply higher thinking when asking questions or else your questions become logical but not sound. You cannot ask such questions because then all your questions will give you the obvious answer.

For example, "If God was so powerful, could he create something more powerful than he?" Infinite = Infinite +1 so in our realm of thinking, no God can't. Thus, there is no God since God does not have the ability create something more powerful than him. Yet, God is the creator of the infinite. He is above the laws of physics. So you cannot ask a question within the laws of physics on something that is above the laws of physics. That is why you have to choose your questions wisely when it comes to something metaphysical.

Einstein and other scientists confirmed that the Universe has a beginning. If so, then what was there before the beginning? How did it get there? You could ask the same for the Big Bang Theory. Who put that point of energy there? Only one answer, God. Time doesn't exist to him because time is relative. If nothing existed then time couldn't have existed right? There's no such thing as negative Time. But our minds are so incapable of comprehending that that it's hard to fully grasp that idea. That's what i mean when I say that our minds are limited by the laws of physics.

You need to think higher Amaterasu. Your logic can only go so far. It's people that skew the idea of faith and religion. Don't focus on them.
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